Universal Access To All Knowledge
Home Donate | Store | Blog | FAQ | Jobs | Volunteer Positions | Contact | Bios | Forums | Projects | Terms, Privacy, & Copyright
Search: Advanced Search
Anonymous User (login or join us)
Upload

Reply to this post | See parent post | Go Back
View Post [edit]

Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBill T. Date: Jun 19, 2004 12:31pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Overwhelming batch of good new movies

You're somewhat beating me to the punch!!

I am right now going through EVERY movie and basically generally genreing them. PSA's, clipfilms, Animation etc. So if you go into Animation now, you'll see it broken up into different subsections, 3d, 3d, clay etc.
It will take me awhile, but I'm sure it'll all be easier to navigate once I'm done!

Bill

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBill T. Date: Jun 19, 2004 12:33pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Overwhelming batch of good new movies

Oh here's a hint too.. If you want to sub-genre your film, make sure you put a colon in.. aka: Comedy Films: Parody, Proests: Anti-War and so forth.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsimon c Date: Jun 19, 2004 12:44pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Overwhelming batch of good new movies

So what we _could_ do is to move all the other categories to subgenres of main categories such as Animation, so that when you click on 'Browse movies', you'll just see X main genres and nothing else - Bill, think this is possible/desired, and what you're aiming for?

For example, Michael Greco is doing a great job of this for the Presidential Recordings collection:

http://www.archive.org/audio/audiolisting-browse.php?collection=presidential_recordings

However, it means it would be more difficult to group general concepts together - it's a different way of doing things from the Prelinger Archive subjects.

I think the two approaches are probably mutually exclusive, though - and my gut feeling is that we should go with what Bill is doing - ie, be much stricter, and have perhaps 8 or 10 main top categories, which would include Animation, Archival Film, etc, etc.

What do people think?

s!

This post was modified by simon c on 2004-06-19 19:44:25

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: godsmistake Date: Jun 19, 2004 1:15pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Overwhelming batch of good new movies

What if a film fits into several different categories?
ex. my film Scar Strangled Banter could probably fit into at least three genres (clip films, Animation, Anti-war). There may be others.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBill T. Date: Jun 19, 2004 1:33pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Overwhelming batch of good new movies

Well, then we would put it into those categories.

We wouldn't just have ONE category per film.

Although just having 6 mega categories really is sort of stretching it....

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsimon c Date: Jun 19, 2004 1:42pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Overwhelming batch of good new movies

Well, I was presuming that there would be categories underneath the top one - for example, if it was a computer animation including coffins, we could file it under 'Animation: Computer: Coffins'.

However, I agree this brings up the problem of someone just wanting to find Coffins on the top level.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: summerseve Date: Jun 19, 2004 11:34pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Overwhelming batch of good new movies

KUDOS to everyone putting in this thought and effort! It will really make this an even better site. You are all making me so happy. OK, so I'm easy.
In answer to the last question, hopefully you could search for "coffins", and receive results along these lines:
1. Animation: Computer: Coffins: "The Graverobbing Aliens from Alpha Centauri"
2. Politics: Presidents: Ronald Reagan: "State Funeral of Ronald Reagan"
etc.
Wouldn't that be spiffy?

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsimon c Date: Jun 20, 2004 1:30am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Possible solution (was Re: Overwhelming batch..)

Heh,

At some point when I was half-asleep last night, I had a better idea. The problem with doing the general 'theme' subjects as further down the tree is that there's no way to easily browse an animation that has coffins in it, and an archival film that has coffins in it.

This is because the two items would have different locations for that particular subject:

Animation: Computer: Coffins
Archival Film: Coffins

..so they wouldn't appear in the same place on the category tree. This would kinda suck - I like the Prelinger style of being able to browse by general theme as well as the actual 'type' of movie.

So here's my suggestion - I can add some text to the top of the Open-Source Movies collection page which says:

--

Browse by genre: Animation, Archival Film, Educational, Government, Independent Film,
Music, Nature, Political

--

The idea would then be that we'd pick one main category (and possibly subcategory), and two other general 'themes', for example:

Animation: 3D
Cars
Accidents

When you browsed by subject, you'd get LOTS of cleaned-up categories, like Prelinger, but you could also find the overall category through this 'map' on the front page.

So, two more things:

- Does anyone have comments/suggestions for my top level categories, as described above?

- Would anyone (apart from me and Bill T.) have time to volunteer to help sort this plan out? If so, mail me at simon at archive dot org and I can probably arrange you some access to help out.

Unfortunately, the Open-Source Movies page is hardcoded, so I won't put the categories up there just yet, but I may go try this with Open-Source Audio as well!

Thanks,
Simon.

This post was modified by simon c on 2004-06-20 08:30:11

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: tambora Date: Jun 21, 2004 6:10am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Possible solution (was Re: Overwhelming batch..)

I'm assuming "Independent film" would encompass clip films and re-edits. If so, then that looks great.

By the way, as a chronic reviewer, I've been defaulting on my de facto duties recently because, well, there are just too many new good films. Without sounding sappy, I'd like to say that they're basically all good films. Even the new Sector 512 movie was pretty funny, as a film noir parody/spoof. I wish I had time to review them all, but that probably won't happen. Unfortunately.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: FP Date: Jun 20, 2004 12:04am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Overwhelming batch of good new movies

So a solution is already in the works. Great!

Terms of Use (10 Mar 2001)